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Vatican sacks Australian Catholic Bishop!

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“The bishop in question was the outgoing Bishop of Toowoomba, William Morris. He is one of three men who have been relieved of their dioceses by the Vatican in the past few months.The others were the bishops of Pointe-Noire in Congo-Brazzaville and Orvieto-Todi in Italy. But while they were removed for financial mismanagement in one case and misbehaviour in the other, Morris’s ouster was on doctrinal grounds.”

Catholics get tough on doctrinal dissent | The Australian

Apparently the Bishop in question was a little to “liberal” with his theology and the Vatican decided to “put their foot down” and send a message to the other Bishops to “tow the line or else”.

I wonder if the Vatican will ever get around to getting the Bishops to follow Jesus’ teachings as in the Gospel of Matthew “

40“…‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

By corollary “whatever is done to least of Jesus’ followers is done to Jesus himself”; see how the Catholic Bishops treat their Australian flock at  Catholic Church wants pensioner’s sole asset – his home!

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May 8, 2011 at 2:57 am

Roman Catholic priest charged with stealing $1.3 million of church money to use for male escorts, expensive lifestyle.

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“A Roman Catholic priest in Connecticut was charged today with stealing $1.3 million in church money over seven years to use for male escorts, expensive clothing and luxury hotels and restaurants.

The Rev. Kevin J. Gray, former pastor at Sacred Heart/Sagrado Corazon Parish in Waterbury, was arrested and charged with first-degree larceny, Waterbury police said. Arraignment was expected Tuesday in Waterbury Superior Court.

Gray, 64, used the money to stay at such hotels as the Waldorf-Astoria and on expensive clothing labels including Armani suits and Brooks Brothers, said Capt. Christopher Corbett. He also paid the college tuition and rent of two men he had met, Corbett said.

Telephone messages were left at Sacred Heart and at the office of Gray’s public defender.

“We are deeply saddened by the events which have recently had such a profound affect on Sacred Heart/Sagrado Corazon parish,” the Archdiocese of Hartford said in a statement…”

For more details see

http://bostonherald.com/news/nationa…osition=recent

and

http://current.com/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/06/kevin-gray-waterbury-prie_n_636342.html

Is this why the Churches Carmelites are so desperate to get my friends sole asset, his home? see

http://current.com/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/06/kevin-gray-waterbury-prie_n_636342.html

“Catholic Church wants pensioner’s sole asset – his home!” on this blog.


	

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May 1, 2011 at 7:51 am

The History of the Papal Conclave – how the Catholic Church selects its Pope.

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For about a thousand years in the Church’s life, the pope or  the bishop of Rome was selected by the leading citizens of the city of Rome.

They would gather together in various ways — sometimes indoors, sometimes outdoors — and kind of make known who their favourite son was. There’s a legend that in 256 Pope Fabian was chosen out of great chaos because a dove came down and sat on his shoulder — the dove, of course, the Holy Spirit.

In the 13th century, most popes preferred to live in the medieval village of Viterbo, located in central Italy because at the time, the town was far removed from the pressures and the plague that made Rome inhospitable.

Then in 1268. following the death of Pope Clement IV there’s a gathering of the “Princes of the Church” to elect a new Pope,  that is, a bunch of cardinals walking around in the village of Viterbo for about two and a half years, sometimes voting, sometimes not but costing the people of Viterbo who had to provide for their comfortable lifestyles.  And the people of Viterbo got so tired of the whole thing that they locked them up in a room. And when that didn’t work, they ripped the roof off (“Some joked it would let the Holy Spirit in,”) and started to throw raw food down on them. One thinks of day-old cannoli and bread and things like that.

The conclave (The term “conclave” comes from the Latin (cum clavefor “with a key”) eventually chose Pope Gregory X  as its new pope. But he was not a cardinal nor a priest; he was a crusader off fighting in the Holy Lands. It took him eight months to return from the battlefield.

As a result of the length of the election, during which three of the twenty cardinal-electors died and one resigned one of Pope Gregory X first acts as pope was to establish strict rules to ensure faster conclaves in the future. This was formulated by the  Second Council of Lyons decree in 1274 that the electors should be locked in seclusion cum clave (Latin for “with a key”), and not permitted to leave until a new Bishop of Rome had been elected.

For more information on papal enclave see http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

and http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/religion/jan-june05/conclave_4-18.html

It seems the Church is still ponderously slow to carry out Jesus’ mission and still just as oblivious to the hardships it causes to the people as can be witnessed by the trauma that the Church has put my friend Frank through (see post Catholic Church wants pensioner’s sole asset – his home!)
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April 24, 2011 at 2:39 am

From a local Australian newspaper … “Time to tax God!”

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An Australian friend emailed me this Letter to the Editor of a local Australian newspaper.

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April 8, 2011 at 11:47 pm

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Is Global Warming an “Act of God”

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A friend emailed this interesting discussion topic, it follows from our previous post about organised religions.

A natural catastrophe which no one can prevent such as an earthquake, a tidal wave, a volcanic eruption, or a tornado or Global Warming for that matter are all deemed to be “Acts of God”. Now we may have some difficulty getting God Himself to pay for the damage, loss of lives etc. that His acts have caused but we DO have relatively easy access to a group of people who claim to be God’s representatives on Earth AND have huge assets world wide. I am referring to all the organised religions whose leaders all claim to be God’s representatives on Earth while enjoying everything that leaders of all multinational corporations enjoy AS WELL as tax exemption in many so called “secular” countries.

So I propose that instead of imposing extra taxes (e.g. Carbon Tax, etc.) on innocent citizenry we get all those who claim to be God’s representatives on Earth (which ALL organised religions claim) to pay for HIs “Acts of God”. We could start by removing the tax exemption (which many so called “secular” states give all religions) from all organisations claiming to be God’s Representatives on Earth – that should give the government a few extra billions of dollars in revenue with which they can tackle global warming.

Before I am accused of “picking” on religious organisations, allow me to point out that all the organised religions such as the Catholic Church and Church of England to name just two of the largest are in fact huge multinational corporations no different then BHP, BP, Shell, Exxon, Microsoft etc. and probably own just as many shares in as many dirty coal mines etc as the “recognised” multinationals own so they are just as “guilty” of polluting the planet as any other business so why should they enjoy tax exemption?

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April 6, 2011 at 2:09 pm

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Catholic Church wants pensioner’s sole asset – his home!

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Below is an email I received from a friend whose 65 year old friend is pleading with the Catholic Church NOT to make him destitute and homeless in his old age. Even though this is an issue with the Catholic Church I think the quuestion can be asked of all organised religions “Do they follow the rules of their own religion?”

“I received an email copy as well as email addresses to whom my friend Frank  has sent his plea for fairness. I have included his plea below, in case any of you overlooked it.

Frankly I am dishusted what the Catholic Church is doing to this 65 year old pensioner. Do you want to drive this pensioner insane for fear of losing his home and independence? I am sure you have succeded in shortening his life from the worry you have caused him. How can you justify this? As Frank quotes in his plea the words of Jesus as written in Mathew’s Gospel “whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ and by colloray “whatever you did to one of the least of these, you did to me.’ Do these words of Jesus have any meaning to you?

Would you have harrased Jesus for his family home in Bethlaham in the same manner?

Does any of Jesus’ spirit still live in the Catholic Church or has it simply become just another multinational corporation only concerned with making money at whatever the cost in the suffering of its victims?

Frankly your treatment of this old pensioner is disgusting!

Stephen

My friend Frank’s plea to you is below:

Dear Catholic clergy, please take the time to read my plea for justice and mercy and yes I also ask you to remember Jesus’s words in the Gospel of Matthew:

“44”They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we
see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing
clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45″He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever
you did not do for one of the least of these, you
did not do for me.’

Am I not of the “least of these”?

I thank you for your time and implore you to prevail upon Australia’s Catholic Church’s Carmelite to treat me as Jesus would have done in the same circumstances. I have been forced to borrow money for lawyers etc because the Carmelites refuse even to talk to me except through their lawyers and my pleas to the Australian Catholic clergy have mostly fallen on deaf ears.

When my mother died in 2007 I discovered that she made out a will “bequeathing” my property to the church AFTER my death. The whole saga can be gleaned from the attached documents. I can only assume that as the only child who has no children of  his own my mother thought that by this action she could ensure that the Church would “look after” me in my old age.

I did not share my mothers trust in the Church to look after me, as I had not forgotten that although she was a practising Catholic and went to church every Sunday etc. (unless she was not well), not once did the local parish priest come and see how she was on the occasions that she was ill and could not attend church (the only time a priest came to her house was when she asked me to arrange for the house to be blessed – and the priest was paid for that service) and then when she was on her death bed in hospital I tried to get a priest to come and give her the last rites but could not find a priest in either Hilton (our parish) not Fremantle.

After I arranged the funeral etc. I tried to contact the Carmelite Order (to whom my mother “bequeathed” my sole asset but received no reply for months until eventually I received a demand from their lawyer to sign some papers which would effectively transfer control of my sole asset, my home, to the Carmelites. I tried to speak to the Carmelites but could not get past their “business manager” and was forced to deal with their lawyers. This situation went on for years causing me to have to borrow money from friends (who had far more compassion for my plight then “mother” church did) to finance lawyers help me retain control of my only asset.

Despite the Church having done nothing for my mother or me throughout our lives and not once visiting my mother when she was to ill to attend mass etc and even on her death bed I was not able to find a priest to give her the last rites; having done nothing for my mother or me the Church nevertheless “graciously” agreed that I would obtain the funds AFTER the subdivision of the property  AND the sale of a portion of the property and pay the Catholic Church’s Carmelites  A$165,000  “to go away”.

As my lawyer pointed out to the Carmelite’s (Church’s) lawyer:
“As we have been at pains to point out in our correspondence to you, our client has proceeded with the subdivision, despite the new and onerous processes and provisions with which he must now comply, at great additional cost to him. He has engaged a professional planner and surveyor to carry out the subdivision and has done and continues to do all that is necessary and within his power to ensure that the subdivision is completed as quickly and efficiently as possible. There is nothing more that he can do to speed up the process.
To say that he has “done nothing to suggest that he intends to keep his word” is false and provocative. We have reiterated to you that your client will receive the settlement sum from the proceeds of the subdivision, following its completion. This was our client’s position at the mediation and remains the case. At no time has our client resiled from this position.”

But the Carmelites s continued in their harsh and indifferent attitude and issued me with a Writ … which was served on me on 23 December 2010 – TWO DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS!

I have been privileged to know many fine, truly Christian, priests etc. but must confess that I cannot include the current members of the Churches Carmelites or their “business manager” in that category.

I implore you, if there are any people with compassion and fair play left in the Catholic Church, to prevail upon the your Carmelite Order to show the same compassion and decency that Jesus would have done – after all did he not say that his kingdom was not of this world and therefore he would not need a pensioners only asset – his home.

… I am desperate to save my home and security in my old age and that is why I am appealing to as many “Christians” as I can find hoping that there are some true followers of Jesus left out there …”

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April 4, 2011 at 11:08 pm

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